Reader's Alley
By IR Staff 10/23/07
Reagan on Bush
Perhaps those on the far right who defend our current president as being above all criticism have a disagreement with President Ronald Reagan who wrote in his diary on May 17, 1986:
“A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something.”
Now, the question becomes whether those on the far right want to disagree with their exalted deceased leader or agree with him.
Ray Peck
2412 Columbia Ave. Better mall idea
Betty Babcock, Dave Lewis and Janet Kelly, please step back and imagine the following:
It clearly is in the best interests of the state of Montana to purchase the Capital Hill Mall site, but a terrible waste of public resources to tear down the building. Use the mall as is, but convert the purpose to a “Made in Montana” Mall to promote tourism and showcase Made in Montana products. Low cost rents could be subsidized by hotel/motel bed tax receipts.
What a grand entrance statement it could make to Montana’s capital city! Constructing the showplace historical society museum complex near the historic Capitol building makes sense too.
Keep our history showplace near our historic Capitol building! Come on guys, get off your perch and start using some imagination without wasting taxpayer dollars!
Dan Elliott
990 Elizabeth
Ignorant of facts
C.T. Canterbury’s alleges in his Oct. 15, 2007, letter that those who penned the Oct. 8 Your Turn article are not a new group. Mr. Canterbury’s assertions lack understanding and ignore facts. MAPGrowth is less than 6-months old. As a former state employee and agriculture producer, categorizing me a “developer, contractor or real estate” person is flattering, but not well founded unless his/her label respectively applies to: building my home, operating construction equipment, and formerly owning farmland.
His indictment of me as a vocal minority having significant financial interest has merit when county regulations cannot be defended. My financial interest, along with all taxpayers, is tax dollars. Those dollars are significant in my budget and many others. Every property owners’ taxes, including Mr. Canterbury’s and mine, reimburse the county’s coffers to pay settlements for lawsuits and damages provoked by unwarranted and impulsive decisions guised as comprehensive planning.
Obviously Mr. Canterbury’s deeper pockets can afford more of the county’s ill-fated decisions than the “vocal minority, “ property taxpayers. His opinion appears to solely focus on supporting an anti-development agenda with preconceived bias to shift the cost of the county’s past oversights on to developers, contractors and real estate people.
Larry Holman
2685 Tuohy Road
Vote for Matt
At a time when the US political scene is in dire need of fresh ideas at all levels, Matt Elsaesser is the right person to lead Helena into the future with his hands-on, results-oriented approach to sustainable and responsible use (and reuse!) of resources. His work with the SAVE Foundation has proven both his ability to create a positive environmental impact and his commitment to making Helena a better place to live. Please join me in voting for Matt to bring a young, forward-thinking perspective to the City Commission.
Kent Schlosser
322 N. Howie
Good parks needed
Kindrick-Legion Field needs to have the upgrades stated in the general obligation bond. They are only the bare minimum required for a professional minor league stadium. People from all over the country and world come to our stadium to watch ball while on vacation. The announcements made at every game say that this is a city owned stadium. People look around, see the need for paint and rotted wood ,after looking hard for a parking spot, what do you think they think of our city? The visiting players, their families, scouts, and our players go to other stadiums. Of course they compare one to the other. What do you think they say during and off season about the facility we provide them? It’s not good believe me. Boy, I betcha that’s good word of mouth advertising for our city.
The pool and park that need improvements are at picnic entrance to the ball park. Visitors would see all those fun possibilities we provide our children plus see what we already provide like the fancy wooden play ground, skate park, plus the children’s museum and carousel, they may consider bringing their young families to Helena to live.
Cyndi Forbes
2526 Heritage Drive
Perhaps those on the far right who defend our current president as being above all criticism have a disagreement with President Ronald Reagan who wrote in his diary on May 17, 1986:
“A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something.”
Now, the question becomes whether those on the far right want to disagree with their exalted deceased leader or agree with him.
Ray Peck
2412 Columbia Ave. Better mall idea
Betty Babcock, Dave Lewis and Janet Kelly, please step back and imagine the following:
It clearly is in the best interests of the state of Montana to purchase the Capital Hill Mall site, but a terrible waste of public resources to tear down the building. Use the mall as is, but convert the purpose to a “Made in Montana” Mall to promote tourism and showcase Made in Montana products. Low cost rents could be subsidized by hotel/motel bed tax receipts.
What a grand entrance statement it could make to Montana’s capital city! Constructing the showplace historical society museum complex near the historic Capitol building makes sense too.
Keep our history showplace near our historic Capitol building! Come on guys, get off your perch and start using some imagination without wasting taxpayer dollars!
Dan Elliott
990 Elizabeth
Ignorant of facts
C.T. Canterbury’s alleges in his Oct. 15, 2007, letter that those who penned the Oct. 8 Your Turn article are not a new group. Mr. Canterbury’s assertions lack understanding and ignore facts. MAPGrowth is less than 6-months old. As a former state employee and agriculture producer, categorizing me a “developer, contractor or real estate” person is flattering, but not well founded unless his/her label respectively applies to: building my home, operating construction equipment, and formerly owning farmland.
His indictment of me as a vocal minority having significant financial interest has merit when county regulations cannot be defended. My financial interest, along with all taxpayers, is tax dollars. Those dollars are significant in my budget and many others. Every property owners’ taxes, including Mr. Canterbury’s and mine, reimburse the county’s coffers to pay settlements for lawsuits and damages provoked by unwarranted and impulsive decisions guised as comprehensive planning.
Obviously Mr. Canterbury’s deeper pockets can afford more of the county’s ill-fated decisions than the “vocal minority, “ property taxpayers. His opinion appears to solely focus on supporting an anti-development agenda with preconceived bias to shift the cost of the county’s past oversights on to developers, contractors and real estate people.
Larry Holman
2685 Tuohy Road
Vote for Matt
At a time when the US political scene is in dire need of fresh ideas at all levels, Matt Elsaesser is the right person to lead Helena into the future with his hands-on, results-oriented approach to sustainable and responsible use (and reuse!) of resources. His work with the SAVE Foundation has proven both his ability to create a positive environmental impact and his commitment to making Helena a better place to live. Please join me in voting for Matt to bring a young, forward-thinking perspective to the City Commission.
Kent Schlosser
322 N. Howie
Good parks needed
Kindrick-Legion Field needs to have the upgrades stated in the general obligation bond. They are only the bare minimum required for a professional minor league stadium. People from all over the country and world come to our stadium to watch ball while on vacation. The announcements made at every game say that this is a city owned stadium. People look around, see the need for paint and rotted wood ,after looking hard for a parking spot, what do you think they think of our city? The visiting players, their families, scouts, and our players go to other stadiums. Of course they compare one to the other. What do you think they say during and off season about the facility we provide them? It’s not good believe me. Boy, I betcha that’s good word of mouth advertising for our city.
The pool and park that need improvements are at picnic entrance to the ball park. Visitors would see all those fun possibilities we provide our children plus see what we already provide like the fancy wooden play ground, skate park, plus the children’s museum and carousel, they may consider bringing their young families to Helena to live.
Cyndi Forbes
2526 Heritage Drive
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Reader Comments:
purple wrote on Nov 5, 2007 4:36 AM:
" "consider this", well given the distinct fact that the only place you go to to get news about what is going on in Iraq are liberal anti-war media entities it should come as no surpirse to anyone that you would actually believe their anti-war, anti-Bush, and anti-military propaganda without bothering to check other news sources. Nothing closed minded about you, is there?
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consider_this wrote on Nov 2, 2007 11:34 AM:
" The problem with implementing the "fairness doctrine" in Iraq is that there would not be enough "good" stories to balance all the bad news. Of course, for every truthful report about the death and destruction over there, the network could simply allow blowhard Rush Limbaugh an equal amount of time to pontificate. After a few weeks of Limbaugh's glowing reports on the "good news" from Iraq, even the last five supporters of this war would then turn on the president. "
purple wrote on Nov 1, 2007 9:08 PM:
" "rockymountainway" Did I say that? The alphabet networks are LIBERAL and as such have a vested interest in ONLY telling the viewers the LIBERAL point of view. I read many news sources via the internet then. Has anyone noticed one bit of good news which came out of Iraq last week, news whick appeared nowhere? There were ZERO American warriors killed in action. That bit of news goes along with the construction projects which are completed and on-going which improve the lives of the citizens of Iraq. The defeatocrats want a return to the days of the "fairness doctrine". Okay, then the liberal media must be held to the same standard - for every negative story about Iraq, they MUST also cover a positive story.
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consider_this wrote on Oct 26, 2007 4:11 PM:
" OK. I messed up. Wrong Doctor. you know who I meant. "
rockymountainway wrote on Oct 26, 2007 10:06 AM:
" So, purple, if it's not NYT, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC or the internet, you're going to say the only reliable source of news is FOX. FAH!
Wake up! We have lost! My friends in the battlefield have been killed in a war we can't win. Being the rest home before they suffer a similar fate.
"
purple wrote on Oct 24, 2007 11:53 AM:
" "john adams" - Mr Peck is a defeatocrat, therefore he is "never" wrong. If someone were to check the e-mails he gets, he would receive dozens of e-mails from moveon.org, democrat underground, media matters, and of course the DNC for the democrat talking points. Those, plus the NYT, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, are the ONLY sources of information he bothers reading. "
john adams wrote on Oct 24, 2007 9:25 AM:
" Mr. Pecks’ letter regarding Reagan’s diary entry on May 17, 1986 on GWB being a ne’er-do-well: I stopped at a book store and found no entry in Reagan’s diary for May 17, 1986 and nothing in the index about GWB. Several websites debunk the statement. It was written in jest by Michael Kinsley in the New Republic. Mr. Peck is mistaken and fell for an urban legend that isn’t true. Has he ever been told by the “far right” not to criticize GWB? Maybe he’s mistaken about that too. The “far right” (Regular conservatives? Paleo’s? Neo’s? religious right? Libertarians? who we talking about?) criticize GWB much more than any left winger ever could. If Mr. Peck read a little more widely, he’d know that. "
purple wrote on Oct 24, 2007 8:16 AM:
" "mt_pass". Defeatocrats like Mr. Peck are INFAMOUS for taking something out of context and then presenting their version as the ONLY truth. Defeatocrats believe their opinion is always right and is the only one anyone must recognize -- sounds a lot like communism don't it! If the defeatocrats had it their way, news sources other than the leftleaning kind would be banned so only their version of events ever gets read. Hitler's propaganda minister would be proud of them.
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angelwatching28 wrote on Oct 23, 2007 9:13 AM:
" Can the IR take on sides in politics? Is it not correct that news media are to stay neutral to the issues, just report the facts and not be opine?
Miss.Angelwatching "
montanadude wrote on Oct 23, 2007 9:07 AM:
" Hey, Ray, maybe it's becuase we have been defeated. Who cares? This isn't a Monday Night football game. Let's cut our losses and come home! Americans are being killed and for what? I don't feel any more secure knowing we destroyed a nation, albiet a nation with problems, yes. If anything, we are fueling the terrorist's fires with our failed attempt to bring western politics to the region. We overreacted to 9/11. Mistakes were made in the heat of the moment. The best offense is a good defense, so let's beef up our borders, our intelligence, and our international presence in the world. "
Crabby1 wrote on Oct 23, 2007 8:45 AM:
" Then Dan, let the MHS take your home to tear it down for a parking lot! the new proposal is a joke and something Montanans don't want! Put it up to a vote of the people and be done with it. And good for you, Ray! It's time people started exposing the hyprocracy of our government, and society in general! "
mt_pas wrote on Oct 23, 2007 7:50 AM:
" In reponse to Ray Peck's typical left wing hit job, I am sorry to say Ray but you, once again, have taken a 'tongue and cheek' article and turned into something it is not. If you do an internet search for 'Ronald Reagan's Diaries' the first hit I got was that, per Snopes, your typical cowardly smear is an urban legend. Why don't you stick to voting on non-binding cowardly resolutions that submit to surrender with all your buddies and leave the truth with real Americans. "
purple wrote on Oct 23, 2007 5:44 AM:
" Why am I not surprised that the IR would take and recommend supporting the "defeatist" stance. The IR ought to stick what they [attempt] to do best, report the news not inject their socialist opinions. I guess the IR "forgot" how many millions of south Vietnamese died following the fall of south Vietnam, which means they have no problem with something similar happening in Iraq.
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consider_this wrote on Oct 23, 2007 12:38 AM:
" Mr. Holman writes, "Every property owners’ taxes, including Mr. Canterbury’s and mine, reimburse the county’s coffers to pay settlements for lawsuits and damages." Well then, Mr. Holman, quit suing the County Commission for doing the job they were elected to do and we could all save put those tax dollars to better use -- like cleaning up the mess you developers make when you overload the valley's aquifer with individual septic systems in your developments. "
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